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		<title>By: Carnival of Pecuniary Delights #22 &#8211; UFC Edition &#124; The Canadian Finance Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Rose from Good Financial Cents presents How Much Can You Safely Withdraw in Retirement. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No Retirement Plan and I&#8217;m 48 Years Old</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Retirement Plan and I&#8217;m 48 Years Old</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] you would be investing $5,500 a month at that time.  It is therefore not out of reason to expect a retirement nest egg in the neighborhood of $1,000,00 by age [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars</title>
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		<description>Nice post and great pics!
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		<description>[...] If you&#8217;ve got another minute to think about your financial future today, Jeff Rose has one more important post to share:  What’s in a Number? Choosing a Withdrawal Rate for Your Retirement Assets. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Saturday Staples: Personal Finance Reading : Yielding Wealth - Personal Finance Tips - Money Management Advice</title>
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		<title>By: dawn</title>
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		<description>5.8%...wow...all i can say is, this sure is a far cry from the magic number frequently touted 10 years ago, based on ibbotson numbers from 1926 to whatever the current year was. I think it was in the range of 10%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5.8%&#8230;wow&#8230;all i can say is, this sure is a far cry from the magic number frequently touted 10 years ago, based on ibbotson numbers from 1926 to whatever the current year was. I think it was in the range of 10%.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Tresidder</title>
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		<description>Jeff, 
The rate of withdrawal is remarkably consistent across long-term studies because it is actually a function of the long-term return of the assets minus inflation. This is intuitively obvious - the real return of the assets roughly equals the safe withdrawal rate. The exact time period studied, specific asset allocation, and volatility of returns then determines what the real return and consquently the safe withdrawal rate will be.

The concern then becomes whether or not the real return from the past is indicative of real returns in the future? That is up to serious debate. Given the economic factors that correlate with growth in real return, the economic factors that correlate to inflation, and the fundamentals that we see currently in the economy I would be very concerned about projecting past safe withdrawal rates going forward. It could be very dangerous.

I encourage an entirely different approach to &quot;withdrawal rates&quot; that avoids the dangers of drawing down a portfolio and it&#039;s dependency on asset growth rates by focusing on the cash flow that the portfolio produces instead.

Hope that helps. Todd
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,<br />
The rate of withdrawal is remarkably consistent across long-term studies because it is actually a function of the long-term return of the assets minus inflation. This is intuitively obvious &#8211; the real return of the assets roughly equals the safe withdrawal rate. The exact time period studied, specific <a href="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/introduction-asset-allocation/" >asset allocation</a>, and volatility of returns then determines what the real return and consquently the safe withdrawal rate will be.</p>
<p>The concern then becomes whether or not the real return from the past is indicative of real returns in the future? That is up to serious debate. Given the economic factors that correlate with growth in real return, the economic factors that correlate to inflation, and the fundamentals that we see currently in the economy I would be very concerned about projecting past safe withdrawal rates going forward. It could be very dangerous.</p>
<p>I encourage an entirely different approach to &#8220;withdrawal rates&#8221; that avoids the dangers of drawing down a portfolio and it&#8217;s dependency on asset growth rates by focusing on the cash flow that the portfolio produces instead.</p>
<p>Hope that helps. Todd<br />
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