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><channel><title>Good Financial Cents -Jeff Rose Certified Financial Planner and Investment Advisor, Carbondale, Illinois &#187; Roth IRA Amounts</title> <atom:link href="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/tag/roth-ira-amounts/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.goodfinancialcents.com</link> <description>Helping You Make Cents Of Investing and Financial Planning</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:21:16 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>Using a Roth IRA to Maximize Your Wealth</title><link>http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/roth-ira-amounts-maximize-wealthy/</link> <comments>http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/roth-ira-amounts-maximize-wealthy/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:04:53 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>JoeTaxpayer</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[IRA's]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Roth IRA Amounts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wealthy Roth IRA]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/?p=7014</guid> <description><![CDATA[Jeff has referred to the Roth IRA as “the greatest thing since sliced bread” and I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly. Today I’d like to discuss how you can use a Roth IRA  to maximize the amount of wealth you can generate. Read that last sentence as “minimize your taxes over time.” Who doesn&#8217;t [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div
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style="border: 0pt none;" title="Roth IRA Amounts" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2553/3663725141_1980afc541.jpg" border="0" alt="You must have earned income (compensation) in order to contribute to a Roth IRA. The annual amount you can contribute to a Roth IRA is solely dependent on your adjusted gross income as determined on your federal income tax return." width="268" height="193" /></a></div><p><span
class="drop_cap">J</span>eff has referred to the <a
href="http://www.joetaxpayer.com/loving-that-roth/">Roth IRA</a> as  “the greatest thing since sliced bread” and I have to say, I agree  wholeheartedly. Today I’d like to discuss how you can use a Roth IRA  to  maximize the amount of wealth you can generate. Read that last sentence as “minimize your taxes  over time.” Who doesn&#8217;t want to minimize the amount of taxes you pay over time?  Am I trying to tell you that depositing all your retirement  savings into a Roth IRA, or converting as soon as you are permitted is not  the best route for everyone? Exactly.</p><p>Let’s start with a quick explanation  of Roth IRA vs traditional retirement accounts (this can be either an IRA  or 401(k) as each offer the Roth variant). A traditional account permits  you to take a tax deduction for deposits going into the account, in  which the money would grow, tax-deferred, and taxed upon withdrawal  at your prevailing marginal rate. The Roth account is a bit of a mirror  image of this, the deposits are made with post-tax money, but both the  growth and subsequent withdrawals are made tax free. In a sense, the  decision comes down to one question – will you be in a higher tax  rate at withdrawal time?</p><p><span
id="more-7014"></span></p><h3>If only it were that simple&#8230;</h3><p>There’s  another option, conversion, which Jeff discussed in his post “<a
href="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/2010-roth-ira-conversion-rules/">The  2010 Roth IRA Conversion Is Coming.</a>”  So if  only I had a magic wand, I’d wave it and produce a chart that showed  me my marginal rate from now until my death. Hmmm, can I add to the  chart my beneficiaries’ marginal rate? I’d be all set then.</p><p>With permission from <a
href="http://fairmark.com/reference/index.htm">Fairmark.com</a>, I’d like to offer the tax rate chart and  a brief discussion of what marginal rate means and how you can  use this knowledge to your benefit.</p><p
style="text-align: center;"><a
rel="attachment wp-att-7015" href="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/roth-ira-amounts-maximize-wealthy/roth-ira-taxchart/"><img
class="size-full wp-image-7015 aligncenter" title="roth-ira-taxchart" src="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/roth-ira-taxchart.jpg" alt="roth-ira-taxchart" width="374" height="315" /></a></p><p>This chart shows the rate you’ll pay  on different thresholds of taxable income. Not gross. This is an important  distinction as there is both an exemption (currently $3650 per person)  as well as a standard deduction (currently $11,400 for married filing  joint, which is the status I am using for this exercise). So, for example,  a married couple with only the standard deduction and two exemptions  would be in the 15% bracket for a gross income up to $86,600. This is  the sum of the $67,900 from the chart along with the standard deduction  and exemptions. At retirement, to draw on your retirement accounts at  an $86,600 annual pace would require approximately $2.2 million. This  assumes a 4% withdrawal rate, the rate considered safe, at least until  the recent market turmoil.</p><h3>Roth IRA Amounts and Retirement Wealth</h3><p>In a study by the AARP Public Policy  Institute, <a
href="http://assets.aarp.org/rgcenter/econ/2004_05_boomers.pdf">How Will Boomers Fare at Retirement</a> I find that for those born in 1956-65 the mean  (half are above half below) expected household wealth is forecast to  be $839K. This includes so-called “Social Security Wealth” as well  as non-retirement wealth. When I look further, I find that “retirement  wealth” to be projected as $503K, certainly not enough to put the  mean retiree into a bracket above 15%.</p><p>With mean retirement wealth at barely  over a half million dollars, yet two million needed to put you above  the 15% bracket in retirement, why the excitement? Let’s dig a bit  deeper. Here is a pretty recent chart showing the range of family income  in 2007 dollars.</p><p
style="text-align: center;"><a
rel="attachment wp-att-7013" href="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/roth-ira-amounts-maximize-wealthy/roth-ira-income/"><img
class="size-full wp-image-7013 aligncenter" title="roth-ira-income" src="http://www.goodfinancialcents.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/roth-ira-income.jpg" alt="roth-ira-income" width="500" height="202" /></a></p><p>We can see that a family earning about  $75,000 is in the 60% percentile for income and still the 15% bracket.  Depending where this family is in their earning cycle, Roth may make  sense for them, a couple early in their careers may find that they earn  their way into the 25% bracket and spent much of their lives there,  so having some Roth savings early on, while still in the 15% bracket,  can’t hurt. This advice goes for any young person or couple getting  started, not a bad idea to avoid the risk of higher rates in the future.  Statistical data aside, for those individuals who have a robust pension  plan at work and have a chance to replace their preretirement income  and then some, should also strategically make Roth deposits. But some  caution is in order. Remember how I talked about my lifetime marginal  rate chart? For most of us, that line isn’t flat, straight, or without  blips. Life happens. Jobs are lost, babies are born, and wives may choose  to take a break from work. What do these things have in common? Periods  of lower income in which one may drop back into the 15% marginal rate  while being in the 25% bracket or higher prior to the disruption. This  can be used to convert some Roth money to a traditional account, and  pay only 15% to do so.</p><h3>Let&#8217;s Take Another Look&#8230;</h3><div
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style="border: 0pt none;" title="Roth IRA Amounts: Another Look" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3785702431_b46d4d5b6d.jpg" border="0" alt="looking out into the ocean and fog" width="500" height="334" /></a>&nbsp;</p><p><small><a
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title="quite peculiar" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/49195286@N00/3785702431/" target="_blank">quite peculiar</a></small></p></div><p>Let me offer one more way to look at  this dilemma – if a couple were to retire today, 2009 tax rates, a  combined standard deduction and exemptions total $18,700. I call this  the ‘zero’ bracket amount as you could have this much gross income  and still pay no tax. It would take $467K in retirement assets to generate  this much in annual withdrawals (remember, I am using the 4% withdrawal  rate). The next $16,700 is taxed at 10%, and this sum requires another  $417K in retirement assets (up to $884K total). As I mention above,  it would take $2.2 million in retirement assets to generate enough income  to put you above the 25% bracket. These are today’s dollars, and will  creep up as inflation raises both the standard deduction and exemptions.</p><p>Another factor many miss is that when  you pass, your retirement accounts have required distributions for your  non-spouse beneficiaries. If your children are in a high bracket, it  may make sense to use the Roth conversion and pay the tax at your rate  so the money they must withdraw has no further taxes due. This strategy  can also be used to reduce you estate taxes if you are leaving a taxable  estate.</p><h3>To summarize:</h3><p>While not impossible, it’s difficult  to “save your way” into a higher bracket at retirement.</p><p>There will likely be periods of lower  income during your life when conversions are appropriate. Take advantage  of conversions during these times.</p><p>Look at your marginal rate, and be aware  from year to year what tax bracket you fall into.</p><p>Spend some time to project what your  retirement wealth and income will look like, this number will be fuzzier  the further out you go, but at least start to make a projection.</p><p><em><strong>If you like this post, be sure to subscribe to Joe&#8217;s blog <a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/Joetaxpayer">here</a>.</strong></em></p><p>*Restrictions, penalties and taxes may apply.  Unless certain criteria is met, Roth IRA owners must be 59 1/2 or older and have held the IRA for 5 years before tax-free withdrawals are permitted.</p><p><em>The opinions voiced in this material are for general information only and are not intended to provide specific advice or recommendations for any individual. </em></p><p><small><a
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